Problem is that mankind worships the prophets, Mohammed and Jesus and not God. Feel free to email me with any questions or comments at markballenger@applygodsword.com. Because they have forsaken Me and have made this an alien place and have burned sacrifices in it to other gods, that neither they nor their forefathers nor the kings of Judah had ever known, and because they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, a thing which I never commanded or spoke of, nor did it ever enter My mind; Moreover, you took your sons and daughters whom you had borne to Me and sacrificed them to idols to be devoured. 1 Samuel 15:3 ESV / 18 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful. Mohammed and Jesus would be nothing without God. Surely God will shatter the head of His enemies,The hairy crown of him who goes on in his guilty deeds. Even the original Bible WAS NOT WRITTEN BY GOD, but instead written by inspired prophets. That is Bull Shit! Just compare Hitlers beliefs on races with George Bernard Shaw (another progressive who claimed to be an atheist for at least part of his life) and you will see many similarities. Why did God command the genocide of the Canaanites? - GotQuestions.org Adolf Hitler: I am a Catholic Let me remind you. Christ has come. And the deaths took place "at midnight," in the weirdest hour, at the most silent time, in the deepest darkness. Your sin never just affects you. I will provide some of the quotes in which Hitler claimed to be a Christian and in which he persecuted Atheists (some are news stories from the 1930s). He destroys the guiltless and the wicked.. They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, and it did not come into My mind. and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Read the German Martin Luthers On The Jews And Their Lies for a background of German Christian racism. Hi, I'm Mark Ballenger and I'm so happy you've come to ApplyGodsWord.com. Exodus 4:23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn. The death of babies in the Bible is not because of Gods wrath, but because of Gods wrath in response to evil sins committed by people. It was he who took shrewd advantage of our race and mistreated our fathers so that they would expose their infants and they would not survive. He made his son pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and used divination, and dealt with mediums and spiritists. Because one day the bitterness and evil that God had to wipe out of the males will be reborn in the children. There are lots of verses where God commands the killing of children. Everybody who dies, dies because God wills that they die. 2 Samuel 12 gives us some good context here. Old Testament Mass Killings - bethinking.org He who keeps the commandment keeps his soul. your children, your wives, and all your possessions, and you yourself will . Numbers 8:17 For all the firstborn of the children of Israel are mine, both man and beast: on the day that I smote every firstborn in the land of Egypt I sanctified them for myself. Ezekiel 18:1-4 is pointing to the ultimate solution for sin in the cross of Jesus Christ. Then it happened on the seventh day that the child died. Geocoding Your idea of God is not perfect. By: edhensley on February 15, 2011 at 2:06 am. Several times the Bible says It repented the Lord such as in Genesis 6 where God was so grieved with mans wickedness that he decided to wipe them out except for Noah and his family.Similar situation to Saul being king. And if anyone still prophesies, then his father and mother who gave birth to him will say to him, You shall not live, for you have spoken falsely in the name of the Lord; and his father and mother who gave birth to him will pierce him through when he prophesies. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.. Nobles, priests, tradesmen, artisans, peasants, fishermen--all alike suffered. The king of Babylon slaughtered the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes, and he also slaughtered all the princes of Judah in Riblah. R But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. Humans are inherently tribal and superstitious, By: Keith Arrowsmith on November 7, 2017 at 8:26 pm. Not Biblical or Catholic. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal. The post was relevant to the topic. By: Ronnie De Leon on August 31, 2016 at 12:43 am. I would much rather follow the morals of humanism than the savage and immoral teachings of the bible. Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock! Thus they have committed adultery with their idols and even caused their sons, whom they bore to Me, to pass through the fire to them as food. When you offer your gifts, when you cause your sons to pass through the fire, you are defiling yourselves with all your idols to this day. We are taught from a young age at church that God is love. God bless all of you jesus died for us read up on history on witness that did not belive in him or god but yet they wrote scrolls claiming all the amazing things he done they witnessed, By: Roxann on September 12, 2016 at 8:07 am, This is exactly the same apology: Christ is the reason the punishment of our parents sin should no longer affect us. Absolutely no one believes Hitler used Christian ideas or values to justify his actions. 30 Saul replied, I have sinned. by Mark Ballenger Hosea 13:16, Luke 24:27 Perhaps the hardest question I've personally asked about the Bible is, "Why does God kill babies in the Old Testament?" P You shall help him to lift them up again. WE WILL ALL SPEND ETERNITY SOMEWHERE. Nowhere have I put the blame for the whole messed up world on one religion. Some comments to prior blogs on facebook claimed that God always gave people a chance to repent. God is not dwelling among us like in a theocracy. The Death of Babies Mentioned in Hosea Remind Us of the Gospel. It is part of growing up. Thus says the Lord of hosts, I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now the only people who will be punished for their own sin are those who refuse to allow Christ, God himself, to take their punishment on himself. 8 While they were killing and I was left alone, I fell facedown, crying out, "Ah, Sovereign LORD! If an artist paints a picture and once done steps back and this master piece he created is far from his intentions, who had the right to tell him he must not destroy whay He created and is displeased with? Nothing will awaken you more to the atrocity of your sinfulness than when you see it hurting those you love most. God destroyed the destroyers. On the willows there we hung up our lyres. Most people arent going to choose to do things that are harmful to them??? Moreover, you took your sons and daughters whom you had borne to Me and sacrificed them to idols to be devoured. Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. Cite this page: Editor: Stephen Smith. That explains what happened to the welcoming and kind a giving native.who didnt know Christ but seemed to be more Christ likeaint that some shit!! But he walked in the way of the kings of Israel, and even made his son pass through the fire, according to the abominations of the nations whom the Lord had driven out from before the sons of Israel. You are the one who sees only what they want and quotes only what forwards what they want to prove. It's all free! on March 18, 2013 at 1:01 am. I wouldnt want to. The Christian fanatics in the Balkans were responsible for the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Muslims. As in 2 Samuel 24 the seventy thousand whom the destroying angel killed (Exodus 12:16) are said to have been slain by a pestilence (Exodus 12:15), so it may have been here. They slaughtered the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes, then put out the eyes of Zedekiah and bound him with bronze fetters and brought him to Babylon. Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. All you simply have to do is believe that The Son of God, The Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins, was buried, and was raised back up the third day. By the way, humanism and atheist are not the same thing. Why dont you include as many links about humanists and how many they have killed. God slaughtered a group of 42 children simply for mocking Elijah's Isaiah 51:14 The captive exile hasteneth that he may be loosed, and that he should not die in the pit, nor that his bread should fail. The Old Testament is about the God of anger but in the New Testament God changes and becomes a God of love. Id prefer to be someone who sees the big picture cares about others and spreads love. They take small sections and use them to argue and spread negativity. What Made It Okay for God to Kill Women and Children In the Old By not fair we mean those children did not deserve to be killed. There was a cry for help, a general alarm, a short, sharp struggle and then a death. You have gone to a great deal of effort to illustrate how horrible the bible is, and how monstrous the god of the bible is. Likewise, all humans have been given the weighty gift of real freedom. From long before we interred the womb. Those who were seized woke up and aroused their relatives. If god is ok with killing babies, he must be ok with flying airplanes into sky scrapers too. Kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys." CJB Now go and attack 'Amalek, and completely destroy everything they have. Name one nation led by Christian leaders who are responsible for the deaths of millions. Please keep your posts relevant to the verses discussed. . http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers3.htm See now that I, I am He,And there is no god besides Me;It is I who put to death and give life.I have wounded and it is I who heal,And there is no one who can deliver from My hand. God orders Saul to kill all the men, women, and children of the Amalekites. The German Freethinkers League, which was swept away by the national revolution, was the largest of such organizations in Germany. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. V W X Y Z 14 Bible Verses about The Death Of Babies Most Relevant Verses 2 Kings 4:32 Verse Concepts When Elisha came into the house, behold the lad was dead and laid on his bed. 3 Signs God Is Putting You Through a Test Right, 5 Signs You Dated a Narcissist Without Even Knowing It, 4 Answers from God When You Ask, Why Did that Person Leave?, 3 Biblical Things to Do When the Man You Love Is Not Pursuing You, 4 Signs God Is About Deliver You from Demonic Influence. Its chief object is to win back former churchgoers and assist those who have not previously belonged to any religious congregation in obtaining church membership. 16 Bible Verses about God Killed The Peoples - Online Bible This is the basis of humanism. Furthermore, God created us ALL. By: edhensley on June 20, 2016 at 5:08 pm. Adolf Hitler: Secular Schools Cannot be Tolerated Ok one other thing bothering me is that you say God is immoral. Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks! Attack the Amalekites; put everything that belongs to them under the ban. Tell those in the hospital from lung cancer from smoking that story. God is perfect, makes no mistakes and has no regrets. They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons. A person stating that they follow a religion and stating it is why they do what they do , then twisting and doing the opposite of what it teaches is purely a fault of the person. I am not going to argue about if there is a God or not as you have already made up your mind and nothing but an act of God could cause your heart and mind to change and give you the ability to see with a spiritual eye. What does the Bible say? They say to their mothers,Where is grain and wine?As they faint like a wounded manIn the streets of the city,As their life is poured outOn their mothers bosom. Because the midwives feared God, He established households for them. then I Myself will set My face against that man and against his family, and I will cut off from among their people both him and all those who play the harlot after him, by playing the harlot after Molech. 27 Bible Verses about Killing Babies Leviticus 18:21ESV / 11 helpful votes HelpfulNot Helpful You shall not give any of your children to offer them to Molech, and so profane the name of your God: I am the Lord. Well who is making the morals? I mean what if everyone decided it was ok to go kill people tomorrow, then in your book it would stop being immoral? You shall not give any of your offspring to offer them to Molech, nor shall you profane the name of your God; I am the Lord. You shall not see your brother's donkey or his ox fallen down by the way and ignore them. When you dont go to work, your kids dont have food to eat. God Killed The Peoples. 17 Completely destroy themthe Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusitesas the LORD your God has commanded you. True or false. I have read the Protestant bible twice, the Deuterocanon once, and all Jewish and Christian apocryphal books. Unfortunately innocent children died as a result, they didnt have the social welfare services to take care of these children. By: Nkosi Carter-Fisher on March 22, 2017 at 2:43 am. I went on the mission the LORD assigned me. As for any person who does any work on this same day, that person I will destroy from among his people. The paperback version is available for $12.99. He also defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter pass through the fire for Molech. Good for you. Anybody who cant see through language like that is retarded. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' " New American Standard Bible This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing. When the king of Israel read the letter, he tore his clothes and said, Am I God, to kill and to make alive, that this man is sending word to me to cure a man of his leprosy? If there really is a god, and if he is good, he will reward you for the selfless sacrifice you have made. (LogOut/ Adolf Hitler: As a Christian, I Feel that My Lord and Savior was a Fighter God ordering genocide but its justified if its in his approval. But the midwives feared God, and did not do as the king of Egypt had commanded them, but let the boys live. It Means Mans Sin Is Greater Than We Thought. Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. 3/16/2013, By: Henry B.Clemons,Jr. Their corner towers are in ruins. 15 Alarming Bible Verses About Killing Innocent Exodus 13:12-16 And shall I be inquired of by you, O house of Israel? If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. We owe you a debt of gratitude. GOD gave the Israelites Saul as their king only because they demanded for a king. H therefore, thus says the Lord of hosts, Behold, I am about to punish them! 3As I live, declares the LordGod,this proverb shall no more be used by you in Israel. Nevertheless I will argue my ways before Him. The Bible tells the relative building up to Jesus several times over. For every young christian you lead away from the god of the bible, there is a lesser chance that the US will be turned into a Talaban-style theocracy. By: open minded on October 23, 2014 at 4:25 pm. Just because people make mistakes and this world is not perfect ( Bible states that too) does not mean God made a mistake just that He loved us enough to give us free will . and all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the firstborn of the Pharaoh who sits on his throne, even to the firstborn of the slave girl who is behind the millstones; all the firstborn of the cattle as well. F 3. I will also set My face against that man and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given some of his offspring to Molech, so as to defile My sanctuary and to profane My holy name. But this merciful and loving God has mandated the murder of children, infants and the unborn by mandating the murder of pregnant women according to the Bible so Im pretty sure he is not Pro-Life nor against the murder of children. The consequences of sinful adults in war often affect innocent children. There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer. And the servants of David were afraid to tell him that the child was dead, for they said, Behold, while the child was still alive, we spoke to him and he did not listen to our voice. Many of you are trying to think for ,or like ALLAH when He tells us our thoughts are not like his , I accept what he does though I do not fully understand them ., By: edhensley on January 1, 2013 at 3:32 pm. A clamor has come to the end of the earth. I have tried to. This is an absolute lie, God never asked to have these people and animals put to death, another plan of Satan to take over the world. Exodus 22:29 Verse Concepts "You shall not delay the offering from your harvest and your vintage. 3Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. I know several pastors who have second jobs so they are able to support their family and still preach. Thus any argument to obey or recreate new laws like these old law are unbiblical. The spiritual mind understand that there is a heaven and there is a hell. Just look at our DNA. What Does the Bible Say About Twin Flames? Adolf Hitler, Speech in Berlin, October 24, 1933, 5. I included the King James Version of verse 3. GOD had given the Amalekites time to repent from their idolatry, but they did not. Abraham came near and said, Will You indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? But they mingled with the nationsAnd learned their practices, And served their idols,Which became a snare to them. I do not do everything the Bible says to do. http://www.religioustolerance.org/jud_pers.htm How dare you imply that God is not perfect!! God lived with them in the tabernacle and the temple and showed himself in visible ways through incredible and miraculous ways (parting the red sea, appearing as a cloud of fire, producing water out of rocks, manna from heaven, etc.). Amen Tommy I love ur fight for our God u are truly blessed! 34 Then Samuel left for Ramah, but Saul went up to his home in Gibeah of Saul. Which leaves two choices: 1) these verses are not the word of God or 2) God is not the benevolent being that weve been led to believe. Pestilence often rages in Egypt in the spring of the year, and carries off thousands in a very short space. The Taliban are taking over American as we speak, because American Christians have fallen away from God (the apostacy) and have opened the door to satan. Contact me: openbibleinfo (at) gmail.com. amen-Henry B.Clemons,Jr. God is taking life every day. Bob, the world may never end. And ministers do not preach against sin. But if the slave plainly says, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free, then his master shall bring him to God, and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. Psalms 135:8 & 136:10 Here god is praised for slaughtering little babies. And decide with fairness for the afflicted of the earth; And He will strike the earth with the rod of His mouth. In the hyperbolic language of the narrator, "there was not a house where there was not one dead." New American Standard Bible Copyright 1960, 1962, 1963, 1968, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation, La Habra, Calif. All rights reserved. The bible permits Israelites to buy slaves from foreign countries, own them for life, and then beat them until they are uncounscious. For Permission to Quote Information visit http://www.lockman.org. Human sin never happens in a vacuum. "You will set fire to their fortresses, kill their young men with the sword, dash their little ones to pieces, and rip open their pregnant women." Isaiah 13:16 . Exodus 1:15-22 ISV - Pharaoh Orders Male Children Killed - Bible Gateway Exodus 4:23. . adolf hitler would b proud of America we MURDER millions of babies and adolf hilter had six millions Jews murder and we say we are a Christian Nation. By: edhensley on June 26, 2015 at 4:58 pm. It never says God punished the children for the childrens sins. You fear something so you attack it. By: edhensley on October 13, 2021 at 8:44 pm. But real freedom has real consequences. False. When we do not understand the scope of sin and the punishment a holy God requires of those who transgress against him, we will not understand how God could command the Israelites to destroy whole nations, including their children and infants. God knows how bloodlines end and how they would interfere with the bigger plan. You are taking someting I said regarding slavery and extrapolating it to other things such as drug abuse. I wish you well on your life journey. Hmm it doesnt seem to me that if he was a Catholic he was following anything in the Bible. Just curious, what is your stand on abortion? Seriously just tell the story to the guy with the hangover. . By: edhensley on November 24, 2011 at 1:12 am. Im just really glad to see that the humanist was the only one who kept his cool throughout this discussion, avoided personal attacks, employed rational thought, and by any measure won the argument. By: Victor Lazareus on January 20, 2014 at 1:52 am. 24Then David comforted Bathsheba, his wife, and slept with her. How can that ever be right? Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'" . Berean Standard Bible . For that, GOD told Moses that he will blot out the remembrance of Amalek. Adolf Hitler: Significance of the Religion of Love Lots of people work multiple jobs. There are many cases in the bible were innocent children are killed by God. They rejected him(GOD) as their king, not because he was wicked, but because they wanted to be like their surrounding nations who had kings. By: edhensley on November 12, 2016 at 1:53 pm, Hilarious God orders dead fetus and infants. 8 He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword. This law does not cast a shadow on the love of God but a light on the sin of man. and I pronounced them unclean because of their gifts, in that they caused all their firstborn to pass through the fire so that I might make them desolate, in order that they might know that I am the Lord.. God is Love, right? I also include links to the blood libel myth, in which Christians used the blood libel charges to slaughter entire Jewish populations of towns. God even uses the sins of parents which bring great consequences of evil upon innocent children as a means of pointing everyone to our need for Jesus. In answer to your question, Hitler was a Catholic Christian and he never used evolution. 105 Bible verses about God Killing For there our captors required of us songs, and our tormentors, mirth, saying, Sing us one of the songs of Zion! How shall we sing the Lord's song in a foreign land? (LogOut/ I know I cant keep the laws and the commandments, no one can except The Lord Jesus Christ, who is God in the flesh. In the Bible (2 Kings 2), a group of young children mock Elijah for his bald head. However, that is not true. Instead of killing her as she deserves for her betrayal, God tells Hosea to purchase her back again (Hosea 3:1-5). By: AintSayin on August 4, 2012 at 10:32 pm. Notice in every passage where there is a promise of severe punishment like the death of children, there is also a very clear explanation that this consequence is due to sin: . 17 The leaders of David's family came and tried . To obey is better than sacrifice, A) God must be bloodthirsty since he ordered the deaths of an entire people group. If God knew Saul was going to make this mistake, then God is at fault for making Saul king in the first place. But please honor me before the elders of my people and before Israel; come back with me, so that I may worship the LORD your God. 31 So Samuel went back with Saul, and Saul worshiped the LORD. Hitler killed more than just Jews. If as you say, God regretted making Saul king. Therefore, Saul could not have been killing Muslims, By: edhensley on June 5, 2016 at 8:14 pm, al i knw is that god is da master of futurehe created it.eventualy he knws dat if he had left da infants o childrenit wil only breed mre revenge.if dea ws a little chance dat some children o infants would repent and stick to da law wen dey wud hav grown up.he would nt hav order them to b killedgod knws da future..we dntabt god regretinand he doesbt nt bcause of creatin humans..bt bcause he gave us free willsaul made a choice.nt to follow gods instruction..dat ws regretful for god.god hates sin n he wil destroy it wen it hs reached its limit.wen u hav reached ur limit of sin u r no longer humanu r an animaltherefore killin animals dat bring fort plague does nt count to be murderso is perfect and will ever remain dat wayno mater how hard foolish people try to bend his ways to benefit theirs, By: manish on January 16, 2018 at 10:48 am. By: edhensley on August 7, 2012 at 2:03 am, THE BIBLE IS NOT GARBAGEmay God forgive you, By: follower of Christ on December 17, 2015 at 4:00 am, Why are you yelling. The Bible IS NOT a garbage, By: Okoye Kenechi Kelvin on June 25, 2020 at 6:41 pm, By: Vallory taylor on October 13, 2021 at 4:36 am.